Friday, Eminem released his grim single “Walk on Water,” which called on BeyoncĂ© for the tuneful assist.

The track will appear on his forthcoming studio album, Revival.

Hours later, a podcast hosted by the legendary Rick Rubin and award-winning author Malcolm Gladwell debuted with an episode of Broken Record​, featuring a conversation with Em to discuss a multitude of topics.

Rubin, who co-produced “Walk on Water,” spoke to the fact that t’s a new wave of hip-hop that doesn’t stand for the same things Eminem believes in.

Rick said, “I could see [Eminem] was frustrated by it,” in reference to the modern revelation of “Mumble rap.”

Listen to the track, which was recorded at Rick’s Shangri La Malibu studio, along with the debut episode of Broken Record below.